This one wasn't for the faint of heart and I believe will be a challenge for all types and fitness levels. It took us 8 hours round trip. The trail has a 1 mile fairly flat approach followed by what we called 4𝞹. Named such due to the fact that the elevation gain, trail disposition, made it like climbing Piestwa Peak 4 times.  Most people will turn around about halfway up at the saddle, if not for this challenge, we might of contemplated it to. Getting to the top was worth it though, the view was amazing in all directions. There were a couple patches of snow that were easily navigable, and will probably be gone in the next couple days. Honestly, it probably is the best time to go as the snow is pretty much gone, and the temps down low are fairly mild still.