A little snow, but no spikes or Yaktrax necessary, and not enough to gilssade. Goats are supposed to be gone, but there was one at
Being where it is, you need to know the trail because it's still all snow. Make sure you have all mountaineering gear for the winter
Had to start 3 miles below the lower trail head due to trees down and blocking road from previous nights wind storm… about a mile
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