My DD and I started 730am from Lost Dutchman State park. Temps ranged from 45 degrees start to 70 degrees end.Headed up the trail and encountered a few people heading out at the same time, not crowded at all at the start. By mid afternoon lot more people and groups coming up the trail.

Used trekking poles up to Siphon's Draw. After that point, it was a lot of hands-on climbing, pulling oneself up and over boulders and rocks. Longer legged persons seemed to have a much easier time. If short and have some upper body strength, you can definitely use leverage to get yourself up and over.

Trail was NOT easy to follow. The advice everyone gave before and during this hike above the draw was stay left going up and stay right going down. That advice was spot on and made a difference where there seemed to be diverging paths. You could see many people off trail going up rough-treacherous conditions. Occasional faded markers on the trail (white or blue dots, arrows) helped us to know we were on the right path.

Coming down required even more hands-on effort, scooting on our butts, crab walking. The section below the top going down requires you to either carefully get yourself down how you got yourself up or go down backwards. If you go down backwards, just have someone help spot you to make sure your footing is good. Another rough spot was just above Siphon's Draw, right below the saddle (west side/slope). It's VERY steep, coated with pea sized gravel and scree, with little to no hand holds or foot spots. I spent all my time getting down this spot on my butt, sliding down, veering towards “rockier” spots to slow my momentum. Once past the steep scree spots, some people were able to walk down the Draw, in a zig-zag pattern.

Overall, in my opinion, it was much easier to go up than down. We took our time throughout the whole trip, the views were glorious and worth the effort. Gloves strongly recommended as the rocks and boulders will chew up your hands. Also, wear pants that you are comfortable getting scrapped up/shredded due to sitting down and crab walking or scooting to get down sections. Take breaks as you go to enjoy the views (and rest arms, legs as needed). We snacked hourly, stopped for 40 min lunch, brought 1 gallon of water each and both drank nearly 3L. Trip took us total of 9 hours. This trail  was definitely harder than Camelback due to more elevation gain in a vertical manner, with narrower spots to maneuver up, down, and around spots, and easier than Picacho due to less overall exposure to extremes (drop offs and climbing up/down sheer rocks with little to no toe/handholds except occasional cables). If you can take someone that has done the trail before, do so, it makes it easier to navigate. However being first timers, it was doable if you keep the things shared earlier about navigation in mind.